Madonna Declares Spiritual Foundation Essential for True Success on Podcast Debut

Making her much-anticipated first appearance on a podcast, Madonna is sharing insights into her spiritual beliefs.

“To achieve success, a spiritual foundation is essential. True success means living a spiritual life, full stop,” the iconic artist, aged 67, declared during her interview on the “On Purpose with Jay Shetty” podcast, set to air on Monday, September 30, as reported by People on Sunday, September 28. “My journey would not have brought me this far without it.”

On this inaugural podcast appearance, Madonna and host Jay Shetty will engage in a “candid discussion” concerning the performer's journey of spiritual change, as indicated by the publication, a transformation she attributed to the arrival of her eldest daughter, Lourdes.

“My contributions to others — that’s truly the sole measure of success in existence,” Madonna is quoted as saying in the same discussion, linking this sentiment to her philanthropic efforts and their profound impact on her personal growth.

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“It’s as if the most intense illumination emerges from areas of profound shadow, allowing you to uncover the greatest brightness,” she elaborated. “In a dark space, you activate a light source. If a room is already lit, what more can you do? There's no, well, exertion required. So, ought we to seek out the shadows?”

She further stated: “My core mission is to bring forth light into the world through all my endeavors. I desire everything, yet my desire is driven by the intention to distribute it, not to retain it solely for myself.”

Further into the conversation, Madonna mentioned that she has lessened her concern for public perception compared to earlier times, and ultimately, her deep spiritual bond has provided steadfast support throughout her extensive career.

“Spiritual insight offers little aid when circumstances are entirely favorable. Its true value emerges during periods of adversity and also in moments of joy,” she clarified. “It serves to remind us that at any given juncture, in an instant, everything could vanish. Therefore, cherish what you have. Cultivate humility. Radical acceptance entails simply embracing that the events unfolding in your life are destined to occur — and that you will persevere.”

Madonna recently commemorated her 67th birthday in August 2025 with an extravagant journey to Italy, accompanied by Lourdes, 28, her daughter Mercy, 19, and her reported partner Akeem Morris, 29.

“For years, my aspiration has been to observe the Palio horse race in Siena, an event held on my birthday, August 16, since 1482!” Madonna wrote in the caption of an Instagram reel documenting the significant day. “Words cannot capture the thrill, the tension, and the spectacle! It is a truly revered ceremony to see thousands fall silent before the race commences! The competition itself defies description. Many thanks! Dreams genuinely materialize! A joyous birthday to me! Farewell Italy!”

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Madonna also attended Morris’ birthday festivities in May 2025. She shared a collection of images on Instagram from a nightclub gathering hosted in tribute to her partner, captioning the update, which featured a picture of the pair embracing, “A very happy birthday to my beloved Taurus @akkmorris.”